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trade score

By Lucky
1/10/2020 7:19 am
Are there any leagues running with the trade score turned off to allow "unbalanced" trades,.. any at all?

Re: trade score

By Cjfred68
1/10/2020 1:30 pm
All 5 of my leagues

Re: trade score

By CrazySexyBeast
1/12/2020 7:11 pm
Hey, CJ- I've wondered the benefits of allowing this feature, and would really appreciate your hard nosed, informative thoughts, as always, regarding GM experiences, pros cons, good, bad issues and do you as admin approve all trades?
edit: as every one knows, the trade values are trash.
Pardon my run on sentence, and....
Last edited at 1/12/2020 7:16 pm

Re: trade score

By Cjfred68
1/12/2020 9:32 pm
CrazySexyBeast wrote:
Hey, CJ- I've wondered the benefits of allowing this feature, and would really appreciate your hard nosed, informative thoughts, as always, regarding GM experiences, pros cons, good, bad issues and do you as admin approve all trades?
edit: as every one knows, the trade values are trash.
Pardon my run on sentence, and....


The benefits are you can trade players for realistic compensation. The trade scores undervalue some players while overvaluing others.

Examples are 90 speed RBs that have low overall ratings are still a valued asset yet trade scores for them are sometimes in the 60's while 8 year RGs have evaluated trade scores in the 1000s.

The problem is trade scores are based on the default player weights while any good owner uses their own weights.

As admin, I just oversee the trades and rarely step in unless the trade is completed off the wall. Two owners should be able to make any trade within reason based on their own style and opinion. It depends on if you are a playoff team looking for one more player to make a run or a losing team looking to dump a veteran to get a draft pick.

Re: trade score

By CrazySexyBeast
1/14/2020 3:39 pm
ty :) Very informative. Would you be willing to PM me how you handle "off the walls" and disputes? Perhaps an example? Until trade values are addressed - which due to everyone having their own weights will never effectively be done...
I want to be able to open up trades in my leagues that the system would normally prohibit, but have concerns about potential abuse and would appreciate any knowledge or sharing of examples you wish to provide before I move forward.

Re: trade score

By tribewriter
1/14/2020 7:04 pm
CrazySexyBeast wrote:
ty :) Very informative. Would you be willing to PM me how you handle "off the walls" and disputes? Perhaps an example? Until trade values are addressed - which due to everyone having their own weights will never effectively be done...
I want to be able to open up trades in my leagues that the system would normally prohibit, but have concerns about potential abuse and would appreciate any knowledge or sharing of examples you wish to provide before I move forward.


CJ Fred can address his leagues, but here is a synopsis of the rules we put in place for the USFL/WFL:
* A three-person committee to review trades that bear scrutiny.
* The committee will review only trades that the commissioner or another coach finds questionable. To send the trade to the committee for review, a coach must reply to the original trade post, stating the reason he is requesting a review. This review should be requested within 24 hours of the trade being posted.
* Trades involving members of the committee will be approved/disapproved by alternate members of the committee. A simple majority of those voting will finalize the decision.
* The USFL/WFL coaches voted to "turn off" the trade meter. This change was made to allow rebuilding teams to trade away aging veterans with high ratings without having to ask for multiple first-round picks in return.

Raidergreg69 has kept these rules in place since he took over the league a couple seasons ago.

Re: trade score

By Cjfred68
1/14/2020 7:05 pm
I was just gonna suggest this approach

Re: trade score

By CrazySexyBeast
1/14/2020 10:15 pm
tribewriter wrote:


* The committee will review only trades that the commissioner or another coach finds questionable. To send the trade to the committee for review, a coach must reply to the original trade post, stating the reason he is requesting a review. This review should be requested within 24 hours of the trade being posted.


May i be linked to said trade thread in that league please?

Re: trade score

By tribewriter
1/15/2020 5:26 am
CrazySexyBeast wrote:
tribewriter wrote:


* The committee will review only trades that the commissioner or another coach finds questionable. To send the trade to the committee for review, a coach must reply to the original trade post, stating the reason he is requesting a review. This review should be requested within 24 hours of the trade being posted.


May i be linked to said trade thread in that league please?


https://usflwfl.myfootballnow.com/forums/1/292?page=1#8034

Re: trade score

By Lucky
1/15/2020 9:23 am
Here's how I feel about it.

Custom leagues should always have the meter off, otherwise its not much different than a public league with small variations in the amount of stages for preseason and FA, custom teams are irrelevant.

The problem with having the score even visible is a lot of players are still going to use it, allowing savvy (predators) traders to use the above mentioned scenario with the RB to their advantage. Identifying certain positions and players who's score doesn't reflect at all the implied value within the game. Like he said the RB even with a lot of low attributes is still very useful(good) in MFN and worth much more than the score would reflect, which then allows people to take advantage like trading a 10th year OL valued at 350 for the above mentioned RB plus picks in compensation. On the surface it looks on the level, but it isn't and a lot of players who don't know football at all, like the recent German guy who is playing, will be taken advantage of.(I think it's in paydirt)

I know you can't make it invisible, but really it needs to go completely.

Edit: Personally I would like to see a restriction on the amount of trade "offers" that can be made by a team. Right now in a lot of leagues there are players(nonames) who just send out mass offers hoping someone will accept.. they don't even bother to look at your roster to see if it would make sense. If you were restricted to making say, 10 offers total, you would have to put a lot more time and conversation into trading. You might have to save a few offers for the regular season to counter injuries and such, ya know strategy etc.. which is better for MFN.
Last edited at 1/15/2020 9:33 am